Find Your Awesome with CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke

“The problem is you haven’t failed enough. This is what my cancer life taught me. If you fall down enough times you start to realize that you can get up.” 

- Susan Clarke

CrisMarie Campbell, an Olympic rower and Boeing flight test engineer, and Susan Clarke, a former marriage therapist and Equus coach, are the authors of The Beauty of Conflict: Harnessing Your Team’s Competitive Advantage and The Beauty of Conflict for Couples. They also have a podcast with the same name: The Beauty of Conflict for dealing with conflict at work and at home. As partners in work and life for over two decades, they’ve adapted their proven step-by-step process honed working with Fortune 100 Companies such as Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft, AT&T and San Francisco Giants to help long-term couples use conflict as a catalyst to greater intimacy, passion, and fulfillment. Their work and expertise have been featured in notable outlets like The Today Show, NBC, and Shape.

“Speaking up is more important than shutting up and dying.”

- Susan Clarke 

I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I enjoyed recording it. We cover a lot of ground here, including how these two incredible women found their respective paths and found their way to each other. We also touch on the power of conflict, and how it can help us get to better outcomes by showing up and embracing where there is conflict, rather than seeking only to diffuse and avoid conflict through people pleasing. Full disclosure, there’s a little buzzing that creeps in halfway through in this episode due to some microphone issues and we had to play with the audio a bit. Bear with us, please, this episode is sparklyAF. 

“Conflict is a source of potential energy. But we’re so uncomfortable with it we want to get rid of it—diffuse it, change the subject. That’s how I grew up. Just trying to avoid conflict.”

- CrisMarie Campbell

“Fulfillment is not about external validation or approval.”

- CrisMarie Campbell 

Find them online at:
https://www.thriveinc.com 

Find their books at retailers, or at
https://www.thebeautyofconflict.com

Follow them on Instagram at:
https://www.instagram.com/thriveinc 

Their podcast is called the Beauty of Conflict, which can be found here: https://www.thriveinc.com/blog/categories/beauty-of-conflict-podcast

Music:
bensound.com